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nice post, casey

You're welcome.
Reading the transcripts is excellent,
but hearing them spoken is most excellent.

The reason I posted that excerpt from Raj is because he is saying something very interesting and very important, and I wanted to share my enthusiasm for the idea.

I know I am generalizing, but there are usually 2 camps:

One camp views the universe, consciousness and the human experience as the random and chaotic evolutionary outcome of physical matter, the "chance result of some physical interactions," having nothing to do with Intelligence, Wisdom, Heart or Principle, and that when you die it's over, or that when the physical matter that comprises your body wears out you die, and then it's over.

This doesn't feel right, to me. I've had too many past life recalls and communications from the "dead" to believe this anymore. Life goes on. Life was happening before this incarnation, and you don't really die when you die. I'm sure of it.

The other camp, from which a plethora of spiritual literature arises, promotes the idea "I am not a body." That is, I AM NOT A BODY, but I'm IN one, I'm wearing one, I look like one, and I'm having a physical experience, but this isn't all there is, and one day I ("I" meaning the spiritual essence that I really am) will drop this mortal coil or sheath, leave the physical universe, and venture into subtler realms.

This is closer to the truth, in my opinion, but is still a limited comprehension of what's really happening.

And what Raj is saying, as far as I can tell, (though he didn't quite say it in this specific excerpt) is that, yes, true, YOU ARE NOT A BODY, you are individualized Spirit, conscious Individuality, BUT you WILL always have a body. YOU will always have that which identifies your presence-no matter where you are, no matter which realm you are in, no matter how subtle or dense it is. Therefore, stop denying it as something un-you. Stop defining it as something other than you. Stop trying to rise above it or get beyond it. Stop treating it as an "it." Stop calling it an illusion, or a temporary abode or housing for the soul. Stop merely putting up with it because, at the moment, you seem to have no other choice. And stop thinking that one day soon-ish, in the not-too-distant future, your body will by design or chance wear out and you will die, and the ride will be over.

Instead, understand it for what it is. Because to the degree that you decree it is not-you, or that at some future moment you won't have a body because you won't need one, you are operating with an inaccurate mindset about how life works and what bodies are, which causes your body to lose its health and vitality and YOU suffer the consequences. It will then seem as though you are suffering the natural consequences of being in a body, and because most everyone on the planet is in agreement about this we don't encounter much opposition to the idea. But, actually, you will be experiencing the unpleasant side effects of an inaccurate mindset.

The physical degeneration and loss of function that most all of us are experiencing is not inherent in having a body, Raj says, but is the result of our various misunderstandings and inaccurate belief systems about life and what it means to be the embodiment of Spirit. Whereas, health and vitality is the natural state of one who knows what's true, and is therefore something ALL OF US CAN LOOK FORWARD TO EXPERIENCING as we get clearer and clearer about what's true.

This isn't to put the body on a pedestal. It's just to put an appreciation and accurate understanding of it where appreciation and understanding is due, rather than believing untruths, limited appraisals, and then experiencing (suffering) the consequences.

A clearer comprehension of what's true involves the realization that the movement and ongoingness of LIFE is a forever thing, and that so long as there is life there will be the evidence or manifestation or presencing of life. Life is alive and it looks like something. In more traditional verbiage, so long as there is GOD (the Great Mystery), there will be the Body of God. So long as there is BEING, there will be the obviousness of what BEING is being as something manifest. Therefore, for us, since we are the specific and unique Self-expressions of omnipresent BEING-Being being Itself as us-"having a body" is part of what it will always be about.

We are not spiritual beings IN a body, as though the body was something different from the Spirit that we are. But the Spirit that we are is recognizable and experienceable, and it's this visibility and tangibility of the conscious Individuality that we are that we are calling "body."

And what Raj is saying is 1) you are not a body, but 2) you will always have one, and 3) (!!!) you will always be having the one you're already being. This is where it gets interesting.

He says your body (your presence) is Light, that it is in fact already eternal, and that it only seems like something un-light-like because of our beliefs and misconceptions. He says you will always be the Light that you already are. What we call death, and what seems to us now like dropping an old or young used-up physical body, is simply analogous to a snake shedding its skin. At no point does the snake become unembodied. It simply sloughs off the outer layer and slithers on. Except, for us, more and more, as we grok the deathlessness of eternal life, there will then no longer be any sloughing. There will only and always be the radiance you already are. And that when you KNOW this, rather than BELIEVING something untrue, then the seemingly inevitable enactment of a so-called death-whether it is long and drawn-out, full of suffering, or quick-will become a thing of the past. Ongoing life-what I have called Life Only!-because of the obviousness of deathlessness, will become obvious as the experience we are obviously having.

And so, I posted that excerpt because I liked the idea, not that it's dangerous to your health to believe your body is temporary or illusory, but that it is to our benefit to understand what manifestation is. Because when we have a clearer appreciation of the facts, whatever they turn out to be, then, as Raj says in that excerpt, "God will win and we will win." That is, we are bound to experience what's true (our perfection, or whatever it turns out to be) because only what is Real will endure. And so, we "might as well begin to win today by not denying God right where God is, and becoming curious to see God (that which is real, true) where you didn't think God was."

I find that totally fascinating.

That is, you are not a body, but you will always have one, and you will always be the one you already are.

You are not a body. You are Spirit, Mind, Presence manifest, embodied-not IN a body, but appearing as one.

This means that even though you "have" or "are" a body, the body is not the decider. The body is not in charge. That's the point. That is, you need not be a victim of what the body does, because it can't do anything by itself! When you get this, when you get the order straight, then things start clicking into alignment and harmony.

That is, you are not in a body and you are not a victim to what the body does. You can only ever be a victim to your own ignorances.

Again, this is important to understand because it seems like this very physical body is in charge and that we are subject to the whims and genetics of what we were born with. But, if you are not the body, and the body is not an illusion, and you ARE Spirit, and the Spirit that you are will always be manifest, then death really is an illusion, not an actual event, and all the disease and suffering most all of us experience on the way to death could theoretically be circumvented because our real DNA is G-O-D.

He's saying that when we understand things clearly we will no longer think of our body as temporary or illusory, or that it has nothing to do with the Great Mystery.

Our existence and body is NOT temporary, so stop thinking it is. Our existence and body IS eternal, so start thinking of it as such. Because if you are not regarding your body or existence in its true light as being the eternal effulgence of the conscious spiritual Individuality that you are, then you ARE projecting its future demise, death. And with the power of your mind you are thereby scripting a death experience in your future.

But, your body is only what it is because YOU are what you are. And you and I are what we are because the Great Mystery, also called God by many, is being Itself as us. This brings us full circle, everything existing within the context of God, Infinite BEING.


And one more thing, if I may. This is from Raj, March 27, 2005:

Raj: And what I want you all to be aware of is the significance in the fact that the Resurrection was a resurrection of what? A physical body, what would be called a physical body. How was this significant? Because I'll tell you something: Matter cannot be resuscitated. Matter cannot be regenerated. Matter cannot be transfigured. Matter cannot be healed. It is generally accepted in the current belief system that when I resurrected I was beyond the human condition, that everything about me was Spirit. And yet, there was my figure, recognizable, except to Mary initially in the garden. This is important, because I keep telling you that your body is the visibility and tangibility of your Individuality. And your Individuality is God-derived, and is therefore eternal. That which renders it visible and tangible is equally eternal, is equally divine. And that's one of the things you have evidence of in the Easter story, the event commemorated by Easter. It demonstrated that what you call "the body" survives death. That which identifies you and renders you experienceable survives this element of existence that is seen only through or in the human condition-the experience of death, the event of death. It's only seen in the state of ignorance that you are in when you have forgotten what your Source is, and therefore What You Are.